December 2018 – The Capoeira Experience Podcast

03 Into the world of Mestre Xuxo

I’m your host Inst. Caxixi and today I am very excited because I have the pleasure to have an amazing capoeirista!! I am sure he is a big motivation for you as well because he loves moving, you can tell his love for capoeira just the way he pushes himself, teaching us even through his videos how we can enjoy ourselves with body movement!!…

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[00:02:44] I know that you are in Brazil Right now, are you teaching?

Yeah I am in Brazil right now, and normally when I come to Brazil is more for the holidays, and this time I decided to stay a little be longer, I will be here for 2 and a half months, and now I am teaching a lot yeah!… I’m hosting an event this time as well, for my own school, international people come from around the world, maybe 10 countries are coming here is gonna be a nice event as well

[00:03:20] I’m sure there is a lot of people that already follow you, and I’m sure you are a big example for people that are starting in Capoeira and people that already have been doing capoeira for long time, so how people can find you on social media or any way to contact you?

In social Media is Enjoy Yourself Movement, just on google Mestre Xuxo, or on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube you are gonna find me there. X-U-X-O

Instagram here

Facebook here

YouTube here

[00:03:47] Were where you first steps and I would love to know, how you started in Capoeira, how were you first steps into capoeira, what was the beginning of your journey?

Oh that’s a question really heavy for my parents right now for my parents, that’s why I’m in Brazil because I’m writing my first book, for the documentary and I have no memories how was my first capoeira steps, I have no memories. But that’s why I’m here in Brazil to interview my mom today they were telling me that my father was trying to have me on ginga position, and to do ginga you know since I was a baby! But it worked.

I started Capoeira since I was 3 years old, I really don’t remember like everything that have been happen in my career as a capoeirista back then, is difficult because I’m from Brazil, you wanna have fun, you wanna play, you wanna be on the streets playing. Playing soccer, but of course if your father is your master, you got no chance.

[00:06:13] Do you have any memories of how you got the Xuxo nickname?

Yes, Xuxo means nice, that name is very ironic, because I was the one that use to call people Xuxo, because I always forgot the name of the people.

Everybody even my students I used to call them Xuxo “hey Xuxo” then with time they started calling me Xuxo. Then with time on one of my events they called me Professor Xuxo or Instructor Xuxo, something like this, long time ago.

[00:08:03] Which group did you start?

The group is called “my father’s home” haha there was no group, nobody was there, my father was part of “Cordao de Ouro” and then “bocao negro” because before in Corado de Ouro when you became like a teacher you have the right to open your own group, so my father had a group called “bocao negro”. So Yes if I have to say a name COrdao de Ouro definitely I started in corado de ouro, even though for me the name was no important and I didn’t know about the name.

[00:09:20] What keeps the motivation? of course the love for Capoeira, but how do you keep the motivation to keep pushing yourself every day? because I see yourself on social media every day, and I am a big follower of yours and I see that you are always training, you never stop training which is amazing and how do you keep that fire going?

I think that somehow, I try to become my own motivation, I always say you can have a 1000 of inspiration, but motivation is you! If you don’t have the motivation, if you don’t create that motivation, you cannot move forward, and for me what motivates me a lot is that somehow my mission as a human being to the world is no longer about me is about others

[00:17:31] All that comes with training, all the abilities that you have right now comes with training, is it there any specific way that you train or any specific exercises you do, or how many time per week do you train even your flexibility, to be flexible with your back because you are pretty flexible.

Ok I try to see what I need to live every single day, I need to eat, I need to drink, and I need to sleep, they are very fundamental for me to live. That’s the question what I need to keep and become great capoeirista, a great mover, we need to trading.

02: Gugu Quilombola de luz [PORTUGUESE]

On today’s episod, we had the pleasure to do this interview to an amazing Capoeirista with a very good trajectory in Capoeira and Champion of the Red Bull Paranaue 2018, he talks about how capoeira is in Germany, Europe and around the world, he also shares with us some of his capoeira projects helping kids and also some of his knowledge and of course pieces of advice for us as well! I hope you enjoy!

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English:

Caxixi: is my pleasure to have you here, I follow you on social media you have a very nice work I like your capoeira and I think that you have a very nice capoeira.

[00:01:40] : how is your story? How did you start in capoeira?

[00:01:45] : I can say that I have to path in capoeira, that is a formal and another informal, I am burned and raised in the central region of sao paulo, which is also called central periphery, and that was a well accustomed to capoeira, we had a mestre suasuna academy for example there in downtown sao paulo, we had a region of plaza republica, bela vista, santa cicilia, vila buarque there are many interconnected, they are neighborhoods in the downtown sao paulo, and there is also plaza republica, and always as a kid I was walking around those neighborhoods and that is the way I made some contacts with capoeira.

[00:05:40] : what was your age by then when you started?

[00:12:15] another question that I would like to ask you that have such a long-time doing capoeira, how do you think that capoeira can help our communities? Because my capoeira perspective, capoeira has so much to give, it is so so big, that can help a lot of people. How do you think capoeira can help communities?

[00:12:38] good, I can talk for myself, from my own experience concrete, I come also from communities, so I can say that I am an example and living proof that capoeira works, and it can help communities.

how do you think can help with something positive our communities, like projects, and stuff like that?

because the objective of our material is to reach and give out for those than do capoeira, and those that doesn’t do capoeira, so they can participate more in capoeira

very good!

so I think there is a lot of people that watch capoeira, mas they don’t know the strength that capoeira have, so that is pretty much my objective I want to do with all this, with the experience from all capoeiristas, like you that have a lot of experience and with those that don’t have a lot of experience, and how capoeira helps to transform them to better

very good! With capoeira you can work different aspect which can help humanity, like healthy people is better, so capoeira brings that, people with a good mind so through capoeira we can reach that faster, capoeira is perfect for the world.

[00:15:25] what do you think, because there is a lot of people that would like to make a living out of capoeira right? But culture is a good side of capoeira but to make a living you also must make money right, and what do you think about using capoeira as business to make it lucrative? Do you think that would help?

that’s part of the process, people must survive, no one would eat with thank you, or congrats, right?

*laugh* or hugs *laugh*

yeah, you won’t be able to live just with hugs, so yeah, I agree, people must be compensated, honored, make their money with the art, I really agree because today’s day what you can’t sell, you pay taxes for everything now *laugh* we have taxes for everything

the government wants to take their money first right! *laugh* and you will see how they can take more. So, I also think that we can do business with capoeira, because we can bring capoeira to those big companies like red bull, stuff like that, I think that also helps grows capoeira

for sure, that is right. Capoeira help in any area, and for sure it can help with capital as well, that is inevitable

[00:17:50] yeah, I believe that too, and how do you think capoeira is going there in Europe, there in Germany, do you think capoeira is growing over there?

yeah, capoeira continues developing in the entire world not just in Germany, not just in Europe, also in Asia, African countries and so on, this is how I believe, that capoeira goes with the timing, and it adapts with the time and helps the timing as well, and to provide, it will continues growing no matter where, the capoeira level in the entire world with no exceptions it’s already very very good! Any place in the world where you go, you can find very good capoeiristas

yeah, I really think that capoeira breaks all the barriers

that’s right!

I think this will be the last question, I think *laugh*

*laugh*

[00:24:11] good… Sometimes we are way too perfectionist, sometimes we want to do everything perfect, but this capoeira path is good because when preserve with the time when you couldn’t do that but you insisted, following instructions, continuing right, but you also have to be patience, capoeira teaches you to be patience, you have to have a little more patience, and one step at the time, respect time, the time will teach us too, so we don’t have how to quit, so we have to understand that, that we have to respect timing.

01 How everything started – Solo

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What up everyone I am you host Harly Materan AKA Instructor “Caxixi”. Right now I am a Capoeira Brasil Instructor located in Indianapolis, under the supervision of Mestre Kim, if you don’t know who Mestre Kim is, check our website out “https://www.capoeiraindy.com/” and I have a short info about him right there, our you can check a lot of his music on YouTube, so he is one of the oldest students of Mestre Paulao do Ceara which is one of the 3 founders of Capoeira Brasil.

Show Notes:

By then in 2001 I was 15 years old, [00:06:13] I was very very introverted kid, and because of that on that exact same day I knew it about the class I talked to one of my friend, his name is Leonardo so he could go with me because I was shy to show up by myself right, then when I talked to him I was like “dude you gotta see this stuff that Miguel’s brother and his friends were doing at school man they were doing a bunch of movements, hand stands and back flips dude, the classes are in the university and Miguel said that he can take us to the class on Tuesday so we gotta wait for him at 3:30 because class is at 4” and Leonardo said “dude that sounds fun!! yeah man I will go with you don’t worries!!”, then that Tuesday came, I called Leonardo, I would say around 2:30, like 20 times man, and nothing, then I was like “you know what I don’t care I’m just gonna go, nothing is gonna happen”…

[00:10:24] But let me tell you this!!, I don’t know if it was destiny, but I walked for about 6 minutes and I walked right straight to the capoeira class!! how crazy is this right?!

[00:11:30] I remember perfectly so they were seating on the ground in a circle practicing a capoeira song that the instructor was teaching at that moment, I remember the song was “malandragem” [If you want to listen to the song click here]

[00:15:52] I was super super happy because I just felt good, I just had a feeling that even today after 17 years I can’t even explain!!

[00:16:09] After that day, my entire life, and I really mean that my entire life change 360 degrees. Classes was from 4 to 6 for beginners, the roda was about 5:40 and for me it was time to go home, and I still remember some of those days I saw the roda for my first time like at 5:50 then I went running home because my mom!!… Then one day I was like “meh just a little longer” then one day I saw the time and I was already leaving by 6pm and my mom was super mad at me, but I was very very happy haha I was doing something I really liked, something that make me feel free, makes me feel where I can be myself!!

[00:18:50] How I got caxixi as my capoeira nick name

[00:21:20] I made so many friends!!! Friends that I still have till today, some of them, some of them have leave this plain and are play capoeira with all those bad asses masters!!

I went to Brazil just a couple of times, I would looove to go more ooobviously!!… My first time I went to a small town right passing the border of Venezuela with Brasil, called Boa Vista, we did capoeira all week long, I don’t really remember if we went there for 1 or 2 weeks, I think 2. And my second time I went to a different state called Piaui to the city called Teresina, by then I stayed there for about 5 weeks, it was awesome, capoeira since day one till the very last day, THE FOOD WAS AWESOME!! I actually gain a few pounds haha.

[00:26:55] if you are listing to me right now, and you are trying to teach, don’t give up man, try, keep doing it, kkep rocking it, but you gotta go out there, you gotta keep trying.

[00:31:53] What do you like about teaching?

[00:32:10] I always believe that Capoeira was created from a group of people to help others!! I think today’s day we are understanding this, that helping each other is better, that come together and have fun doing what we all love makes life a beautiful thing, and

[00:32:37] that is why I came up with the creation of this podcast, a way to help each other to connect, to learn even more, to open up more our horizon, use technology to help each other, to connect each other, connect our hearts, to give all this love that we have for capoeira to capoeira.

[00:33:02] Capoeira has so much to offer to our countries, to our society, to our communities, to our friends, to our family to everyone! and I can tell you this… I’m a living proof that capoeira can help people to improve anything in their life, like it did to me, I was a veeery very shy person, I didn’t use to make eye contact with people, I never said hi to anyone, I was that kid that sat a the very far corner, don’t talk, don’t move, I just did my class then went home. Capoeira helped me to feel better with myself, to believe on myself, to really believe that I am worthy and I don’t need to put myself in a bubble, and like me, out there are many people that I am 100% sure capoeira help them with so many positive changes!!

I really think if we have a very good internal organization, and very good structure we can make a living out of what we love, we just gotta find the right tools and the right way to do the stuff, and I am talking about the business part of this, legal structure, how to file our taxes, what kind of business insurance, how to approach corporate business in order to make some projects, all that needs a structure, nothing like that is gonna happen just because we know how to play berimbau, we gotta go beyond that, read, learn, ask but most importantly, take actions for it!

If one day you are in town, reach out to me to “capoeiraIndianapolis@gmail.com” and let’s train, let’s play capoeira, let’s have a chat and I will also have you as my guest here in our podcast so people out there can know your perspective and your experiences with capoeira and how it is helping you or how it helped you!!

Links Mentioned:

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Visit our Podcast at: https://capoeirapodcast.com/

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Welcome to The Capoeira Experience Podcast

Hi!… Welcome to your favorite Capoeira podcast. Here I’m going to interview a lot of CAPOEIRISTAS around the world to learn about what happens behind of those (even you) that practice this amazing art of self-expression, so we can learn from some of their (or even yours) perspective and/or experiences of doing Capoeira from day one. You will find the whys, hows, and whats that keep their motivation so we can apply it into our training or daily basis. You will listen even to some of their advice!… I want to help our community get even bigger, and we can do this together!! I would love to give shoutouts to your school and hopefully, that can help your school grow (even if you just participate and want to help the leader of your school) or even to connect with other capoeira schools, so feel free to contact us through our email: PodcastCapoeira@gmail.com!!

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